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britCpower
recumbent enthusiast

USA
249 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2012 :  15:58:34  Show Profile  Visit britCpower's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I just signed up for this years Mega Monster Enduro after my business trip to South Africa was cancelled.

http://megamonster.lowkeyhillclimbs.com/2012/

Can I tempt any other Norcal HPV racers to sign up ? Would be nice to have some more recumbents show up this year.

Last year I raced it on my Klein Road bike with clip ons and was about 10 minutes quicker than I did on my Bacchetta. This year I plan to use the Bacchetta again and turn the tables.

It looks like there may be a few Velomobiles racing. I am really intriugued to see how much they smash the course record by.

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Zyzio
recumbent enthusiast

USA
139 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2012 :  13:51:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mark,

What is the worst climb like? Looks like roughly 2 miles at 6%. Also, is it possible to "open-up" a velomobile on the downhills, or are there a lot of turns? I'm thinking of bringing my new (used) Mango...


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britCpower
recumbent enthusiast

USA
249 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2012 :  16:49:32  Show Profile  Visit britCpower's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Most of the climbs are power climbs. There is only one climb that had me groping for the granny ring and that was the short section after the Bitterwater rest stop on way back. It is basically about 100m at around 9%. This is also the only corner that you have to really respect on the way down. This climb had me down to pretty much my bottom gear on the trike. The other climbs should not be a problem.

Hard bit marked on this picture:



I am really curious to see how the velomobiles cope with the rolling nature of the terrain.

The course has some very long straight sections and there is tons of room to open up a velo. I had an absolute blast on my Trike on the section between mile 30 and mile 40. I reckon 50MPH could be possible in a velo on this section if the wind was right.

Will I be seeing you race your mango on Putah Creek and do you want to sell me your rear 650 HED 3?

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Edited by - britCpower on 01/12/2012 17:10:17
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Zyzio
recumbent enthusiast

USA
139 Posts

Posted - 01/13/2012 :  12:07:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mark,

Thanks for the info. Considering that you are a very strong climber, I'll have to take the "...climbs should not be a problem" with a grain of salt. What is your lowest gear on the trike?

I'm still getting acclimatized to the Mango, the bottom bracket is about 2" lower than I'm used to. The acceleration is more in the truck zone, rather than a sports car. Once you get going though, it is fairly easy to maintain speed. All the stored energy also helps on the rollers. I do love the suspension.

I will attempt to race it at Putah Creek, you are welcome to borrow the wheel for the race, but I'm not planning on selling it for now.

PeterB
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britCpower
recumbent enthusiast

USA
249 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2012 :  13:34:24  Show Profile  Visit britCpower's Homepage  Reply with Quote
One week away Bump

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Zyzio
recumbent enthusiast

USA
139 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2012 :  11:31:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mark,

How's the Musashi build coming along? Will you be riding it?

Greg and I are coming in one van, should look interesting with the color-matched Quest on the roof.

PeterB
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britCpower
recumbent enthusiast

USA
249 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2012 :  14:45:35  Show Profile  Visit britCpower's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I am planning on racing the Bacchetta but without the disk and Hed 3. The aero wheels are fine for TT's but on fast rolling windy Californian back roads I feel happier on the stock wheels. Saturday was horrendous on the aero setup.

There is so much climbing in the Mega Monster that I reckon the lighter wheels are probably a little faster for me especially as the average for the event is less than 20MPH. I tried a disk last year on my DF and it just felt like it was dragging me back on the hills.

The Musashi is going to have its first outing on the Death valley Double in March.

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tim_turner
recumbent enthusiast

USA
221 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2012 :  17:16:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
my personal experience is that a rear disk (err cover) and regular front somewhat stabilize the bike in rough winds. I've heard the HED tri on the front is really squirrely in wind.

T
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Dreamer
recumbent guru

USA
599 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2012 :  21:19:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tim,

I've ridden a 700C HED Tri-spoke on my high racer in some fairly windy conditions at high speeds (40+ mph) without any problems. My carbon forks are light weight and aren't extremely stiff but might suggest that the problems you metioned are alignment or fork geometry problems. They will pull in a wind but I didn't find them to be squirrely.

Don

Edited by - Dreamer on 02/06/2012 21:21:00
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britCpower
recumbent enthusiast

USA
249 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2012 :  22:06:48  Show Profile  Visit britCpower's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I was just inspecting my HED3 tonight and the bearings are very worn. This might explain some of the high speed cornering vagueness I was experiencing.

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Edited by - britCpower on 02/06/2012 22:57:07
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Larry Lem
human power expert

South Sandwich Islands
2240 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2012 :  06:47:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
BTW, I can confirm that a HED Trispoke is very squirrely in the wind on the front of an upright bike. Not that it matters at this point.


edit: added that it's the front wheel to which I was referring


Edited by - Larry Lem on 02/07/2012 19:27:41
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Zyzio
recumbent enthusiast

USA
139 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2012 :  10:18:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mark,

The bearings are 6001 size. Look at Boca Bearing site, they have nice 6001 ceramic bearings at a moderate price. It is easy to tap the old ones out and press the new ones in.

My experience with the trispokes is:

Two trispokes = A bit squirrely, work best when you don't overreact, just let them roll.
Trispoke + disk = Better
Trispoke + Disk + Tail fairing = Very stable. Tail fairing seems to stabilize all configuration. Additional surface area in the rear makes the bike self-correcting in the wind.

This is going to be my rolling 58th birthday party. Hope I can lug the 65 lb. velo up all those hills...


PeterB
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Dreamer
recumbent guru

USA
599 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2012 :  17:55:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Two trispokes = A bit squirrely, work best when you don't overreact, just let them roll.
Trispoke + disk = Better
Trispoke + Disk + Tail fairing = Very stable.


The discrepancy between reports like Larry's and Tim's and my own experience is starting to make sense. I always run my 700C high racer with a disk rear and sometimes add the tail box.
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tim_turner
recumbent enthusiast

USA
221 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2012 :  21:19:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just to reiterate, I have no personal experience, just noticed a lot of reports from bent riders saying that the tri spoke was not very fun in the wind. I only have experience with the Uriel 650c wheelset and an aero cover on the rear. Been running them naked since the last 'official' climbing event I did.

Don, you're on my short list of people to come visit this winter. I should just ride down to your place one day.

T
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britCpower
recumbent enthusiast

USA
249 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2012 :  18:34:41  Show Profile  Visit britCpower's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It was a wet and windy day out there today. I considered bailing at the 100k turnround as the rain was really driving hard but persevered on to do the 101 miles. Roads were slick so I backed off on the descents (mainly beacause I couldnt see the potholes and stuff) and there was a nasty headwind all the way home. I managed to knock about 5 minutes off my personal best despite the conditions. Oh the joys of a cold stream of water down the back of your kneck.

http://app.strava.com/rides/4082807

Good to see Peter out there in his mango (he looked warm and dry).


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warren
human power expert

4790 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2012 :  20:17:39  Show Profile  Visit warren's Homepage  Reply with Quote
101 mi
Distance
4,922 ft
Elevation
05:14:01
Moving Time
3,923
Calories
217
Suffer Score

And I bet Strada didn't even factor the wind and rain into your suffer score!

-Warren.
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Velofellow
New Member

USA
73 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2012 :  21:20:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mark, excellent effort! I was there too and was glad to be in a Velomobile. I only did the 100k as I originally planned. I saw you flying up to the finish line. Sorry I didn't get a chance to say hi.
I enjoyed the ride except for some really bad leg cramps I got on the last 25 miles.

Greg
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britCpower
recumbent enthusiast

USA
249 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2012 :  22:16:06  Show Profile  Visit britCpower's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Sorry I missed you Greg. I found the last 11 miles to be really hard today. Did you notice the wind much in the Velo ?

My brakes werent working very well due to the rain and I overshot the finish. Time for some new pads I think :)

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tim_turner
recumbent enthusiast

USA
221 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2012 :  23:42:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think there's "Nasty Rainfall In Your Face" check box on one of the tabs that throws up a curve in the graph :-)

Wet brakes... eeek. I've over shot an intersection before.

T
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Velofellow
New Member

USA
73 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2012 :  09:17:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by britCpower

Sorry I missed you Greg. I found the last 11 miles to be really hard today. Did you notice the wind much in the Velo ?

My brakes werent working very well due to the rain and I overshot the finish. Time for some new pads I think :)

my blog
http://britcpower.wordpress.com/



Mark, I could hear the wind passing my ears more than I could feel it slowing me down. Headwinds don't really bog down a Velomobile like they do a unfaired bike.

Greg
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britCpower
recumbent enthusiast

USA
249 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2012 :  19:48:06  Show Profile  Visit britCpower's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Results have been posted. Looks like I was second fastest solo (human powered)
http://megamonster.lowkeyhillclimbs.com/2012/results.html

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Slachaine
Starting Member

USA
2 Posts

Posted - 02/14/2012 :  17:19:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Since there are different catagories for different set-ups I thought maybe there should have been a fixed gear catagory. My 7th place against geared bikes isn't too shabby. I almost spun my legs out in the first 50 mile tailwind in my 46x17. I actually enjoyed the trip back with the slower petaling better. Hats off to anyone who didn't chicken out with the wet roads and turn around at the 31 mile check. Next year maybe 46x16 gear. Not needing to shift is soo much fun.
steve
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britCpower
recumbent enthusiast

USA
249 Posts

Posted - 02/14/2012 :  22:29:12  Show Profile  Visit britCpower's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I agree that there should be a fixed gear category. You fixed gear riders are insane :+)

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Slachaine
Starting Member

USA
2 Posts

Posted - 02/15/2012 :  08:40:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Only 1/4th of my riding is fixed usually. That was my longest fixed ride so far. I rode 300k with Jim Kern in 2009 when he was on his recumbent alot and I was on a geared race bike. It was hard to catch a draft off him and not get dropped on the down hills. We were the first finishers in about 11.5 hours. Then a month later he beat me by an hour in the 400k. and I thought I was riding fast.
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