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Rob65
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Netherlands
14 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2011 :  10:25:38  Show Profile  Visit Rob65's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Mike,

the first records are on the page - no complete results though, Garrie is now working to post the results as photos ... I was too busy trying to get everything working (I though computers use zeros and ones to work with but today I discovered there is a lot of gray stuff in between ...)

Somehow we could not get the internet connections to work reliably but it suddenly works.
I've learned not to ask why but to enjoy this moment of happiness

Rob
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Garrie L Hill
human power supergeek

USA
1441 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2011 :  10:25:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Results of the 45 minute crit.


Garrie "carbon based lifeform" Hill
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Garrie L Hill
human power supergeek

USA
1441 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2011 :  10:29:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jan eke Sindram is out doing her hour run. 15 minutes in, she is averaging 29.202 mph. Mike? What have you got in your records trunk for women's hour?

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Rob65
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Netherlands
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Posted - 10/30/2011 :  11:12:45  Show Profile  Visit Rob65's Homepage  Reply with Quote
46.505 kmh - a new world record for Janneke!

This is pretty - no damn good - for a lady who just started racing this year.
Her first record attempt is a good one!!!

Congratulations!

He - I designed the bike so I have to join the fun

Rob
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sean costin
human power supergeek

Lesotho
1976 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2011 :  13:11:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Did they do 200's

Sean
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bowi
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Netherlands
17 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2011 :  14:31:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, we did.
But no one is anywhere near the WR.

My run was crap, first run I missed the strips,
Second run within 5 min. my timing was off.

I'm not sure if Bas vd Kooy broke a youth record.

It was a fun day!!

Sebastiaan





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Rob65
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Netherlands
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Posted - 10/30/2011 :  15:45:48  Show Profile  Visit Rob65's Homepage  Reply with Quote
There is a 200 m record - a junior record but Sean has to watch out.
Bas did the 200 m in 11.299 seconds which is just 0.57 slower than Sean
Sean, you have to come over next year to make sure Bas does not take over.
Also note Bas's kilo record; 1:07.424 is just 0.91 slower than the old adult record.


Good thing that Sebastiaan set the record a bit tighter - this keeps us reminding there is still a difference between junior and adult records.


Rob
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warren
human power expert

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Posted - 10/30/2011 :  16:48:10  Show Profile  Visit warren's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Configurations to everyone, it looks like it was a great event!

-Warren.
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Speedbiker
human power expert

USA
2415 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2011 :  18:06:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Did I read that right? 1:01 in the kilo? Isn't that way under the bent record, and not far from the DF record?
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davidw
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Netherlands
60 Posts

Posted - 10/31/2011 :  04:09:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes but the 1:01 was by Daniel Fenn in his go-one VM (so fully faired). From the sidelines it appeared as though his speed was more limited by how fast he could go through the turns than how fast he managed to pedal... His rear wheel was sliding around and he could not stay low on the track (as you see in the vid). Crazy speed for a 3wheeled vehicle on a wooden track :-O

Fastest unfaired km was 1:05.414 by Sebastiaan Bowier. Which is 1+ second under the old record.

Edited by - davidw on 10/31/2011 04:10:19
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pjotr320
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Netherlands
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Posted - 10/31/2011 :  04:54:45  Show Profile  Visit pjotr320's Homepage  Reply with Quote
On the open road, Daniel can reach 80+ kph in his K. On this track, the corners limit him to 67kph. His peak power, at the start, was 1339 watt. His 1st lap was the fastest of all 1st laps on the 1k.

Yanneke went as fast as she could. She was utterly exhausted. I think it took half an hour before she was able to stand again.

The criterium was fun, I seem the be getting in shape again. Next time I'll bring my homebuilt carbon 'bent.

My photos: https://picasaweb.google.com/106054995268706519577/RecorddagApeldoorn2011



Peter - Fuego, Pioneer, Cruiser, Cruz Q451, Thivasca, waiting for GFK Evo K
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Speedbiker
human power expert

USA
2415 Posts

Posted - 10/31/2011 :  07:49:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That is a sweet velocar. Seems it might end up on its side quite abit in general use. Very narrow. A good 24 hour machine, maybe? A 1:05 kilo? Wow.

Thanks for all reports.
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pjotr320
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Netherlands
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Posted - 10/31/2011 :  09:04:07  Show Profile  Visit pjotr320's Homepage  Reply with Quote
@Speedbiker:
More track width than a Quest (64 vs 61cm or so) and because of the low c.o.g. and the stiff suspension, the cornering is fabulous. (for a VM) On of the reasons I ordered one. Should be ready within a week.

Peter - Fuego, Pioneer, Cruiser, Cruz Q451, Thivasca, waiting for GFK Evo K
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Speedbiker
human power expert

USA
2415 Posts

Posted - 10/31/2011 :  10:08:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Buy two and send me one. Just for testing, of course. Hee hee.
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bowi
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Netherlands
17 Posts

Posted - 10/31/2011 :  12:16:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
David just send me the SRM data from my kilo run.
And summond me to post it.

It's lower than expected, maybe next year no 200m.....

I'd like to see srm data from the other riders.


Edited by - bowi on 10/31/2011 13:32:38
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Larry Lem
human power expert

South Sandwich Islands
2270 Posts

Posted - 10/31/2011 :  13:43:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cool!
I would think your heartrate would be climbing rapidly throughout that minute+ effort, on its way to 200+ bpm if it had a long enough time to get there.

I just looked at a kilo effort of mine and it starts at 650 W and tapers to 250 W at 1:20. I guess you can do that with one leg. Sebastiaan is the new Superman!

Larry Lem
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Upright Mike
human power expert

USA
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Posted - 10/31/2011 :  17:14:35  Show Profile  Visit Upright Mike's Homepage  Reply with Quote
200-meter results here from Peter
https://picasaweb.google.com/106054995268706519577/RecorddagApeldoorn2011#5669604274187773010

1) Sebastiaan Bowier, VeloX unfaired, 11.284 seconds 63.807 km, 39.648 mph.
2) Bas van der Kooij, Tyrfing, Team Elan 11.299 seconds, 63.722 km, 39.395 mph - JUNIOR WORLD RECORD
3) David Verbroekken, Razz Fazz unfaired 12.203 seconds, 59.002 km, 36.662 mph.
4) Guido Mertens, 15.895 seconds, 45.297 km, 28.146 mph.

Edited by - Upright Mike on 10/31/2011 17:17:10
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sean costin
human power supergeek

Lesotho
1976 Posts

Posted - 10/31/2011 :  19:26:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sebastien's kilo is really impressive considering that he was riding a front wheel drive bike which tends to limit the amount of power you can apply without wheel slip at the start. Those wood tracks are very slippery. I had issues with my rear tire slipping when I was there. I'm wondering if he used any tackifiers on his tires for better grip?

I'm thankful to keep the 200 record. I know it won't last long.

Sean

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Rob65
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Netherlands
14 Posts

Posted - 11/01/2011 :  00:46:59  Show Profile  Visit Rob65's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
I'm thankful to keep the 200 record. I know it won't last long.

Sean



competition is becoming a bit unfair ... Bas van der Kooij has been using professional training services the last two years and this year he was promoted as "top talent" and is now training and studying at "Papendal" - that's where a lot of the pro's are being shaped over here...
One comfort though; he won't be able to break Sean's record while still being a junior. He is becoming 16 in two weeks time

Rob
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Rob65
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Netherlands
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Posted - 11/01/2011 :  02:38:11  Show Profile  Visit Rob65's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Phew ...

I am still recovering from last weekend.
Hans tried to fly his magic broom to all places where he was needed, I was running around half of the time to see if we could get the internet up&running, Garrie spent most of his time updating the forum using his 3G enabled iPad (I hope his bill will still be acceptable) and some others chased us and the riders to capture these moments on photo.

The other half of my time I was taking photos. trying to hear what records were being set and shouting at Hans (sorry Hans) to try to convince him to step of his broom and delegate some of his tasks to others

Next year - Yes we will do this again in 2012 - we need to do this differently.

Yesterday we dropped of Garrie at the Airport and on our way back home Hans, Ellen and I already collected a number of action items.
Just little things like making sure we have enough tables, a working internet connection, make sure we have (intermediate) results available in real-time, arrange some food to prevent Hans from fainting and - very important:

we will be looking for volunteers for 2012.

So if you liked the event this year, please keep track of our website and this forum. We will be asking for your help!

Also, this event could not take place without the sponsors (Hans just tricked Challenge Recumbents into becoming our first new sponsor!) and - let's not forget this - all riders and visitors (both on-site and through internet).

So a big thanks goes to all of you.
Without your presence this event would not have been possible.

Thanks and hope to see you all next year.
An exact date is not yet known but we are aiming for the last weekend of October, like last two years.

Regards,

Rob
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Larry Lem
human power expert

South Sandwich Islands
2270 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2013 :  08:35:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Rob Jansen, Hans VV, or any of the Euro folk,

Was Janeneke Sindram's mark submitted to the WRRA for approval for a new women's unfaired hour record? Let's get this record documented and recorded at the WRRA site so everyone is kept up-to-date.

Larry Lem
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LongJohn
recumbent guru

Netherlands
576 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2013 :  10:18:34  Show Profile  Visit LongJohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Larry,

No it wasn't.
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