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britCpower Posted - 07/06/2011 : 23:41:43
Greg showed up on his shiny new quest at the 10 Mile TT tonight and destroyed everyone. Despite having to go into flintstone mode at the turn the time was sub 20 minutes. Smoking !!!!

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lida Posted - 10/21/2011 : 15:12:09
Hi!

I like to point you to a recent time trial over 51 km (31.7 mi) in the Netherlands. Daniel Fenn won with his Evo K Velomobile with 60.9 km/h (37.8 mph) average. Hans Wessel was 2nd in a Quest. Seems like Quests are not the fastest Velomobiles anymore. In the first 20 km Daniel rode 66 km/h (41 mph) on average.

Results: http://www.mylaps.com/results/showrun.jsp?id=2115467
Pic of Evo K: http://www.flickr.com/photos/martenjn/6250582493/in/set-72157627784060075
More on the event: http://www.ligfiets.net/news/3965/nieuw-lel-met-voorjaarsweer.html

David
britCpower Posted - 10/19/2011 : 22:19:06
Mike. I cant comment on the RRA records (they do have one way records where wind and elevation are encouraged) but the CTT (It was the RTTC back in my day) are a highly regulated bunch. Courses are regulated and there is no absolutely no drafting allowed. Courses are generally out and back with some regulation on the difference between start and finish although their are circuits and sporting courses too.

The roads in the UK can be very busy and some of the fastest courses are on dual lane highways where there is significant traffic volume. This really does help. I am not sure if Bradley was traffic assisted.
Example of a typical courses:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlKtovxescI&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4ZALT1qOvk&feature=related

Here is a 18 minute 10 in progress

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hklHMkcwAgA

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Upright Mike Posted - 10/19/2011 : 10:20:34
Thom (Speedbiker), You are too modest, you didn't even mention that you did a 17:08 in the CoSlinger at the Blue-Streak 10 mile TT - a loop course around the Airforce base! - and the fact that Rob Wood did a 16 minute something for the record in his Coroliner! Man, those are fast times!
http://www.daytoncyclingclub.org/Bluestreak/bluestreak2006_june.htm
Upright Mike Posted - 10/19/2011 : 10:15:54
BritCpower,
Being from Britain, perhaps you could shed some light on the British RRA Road Records Association
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_Records_Association
http://www.rra.org.uk/records%20distance.html

Their records for 25, 50, 100 miles are rather extraordinary, almost too fast to be believeable. For instance their record for Men's 25 miles is 40 minutes 50 seconds. This far exceeds Chris Boardman's internationally respected record of 45 minutes, 57 seconds recognized by the previously mentioned http://ctt.org.uk. In a similar fashion, the RRA has less than believeable trike times and other records. I had heard from one British source - Dave Larrington that the effect of passing traffic providing a draft could account for some of the extraordinary RRA records - though I believe it says somewhere in the website that motorpacing, drafting or other assist isn't allowed. Do they have one-way courses, and riders do marks on a day with a good tailwind? Are they all downhill? All in all, I'd trust the ctt.org.uk site more than the RRA.
britCpower Posted - 10/19/2011 : 07:05:19
quote:
Originally posted by Upright Mike

Incredible! 17:52 in a fully-faired carbon Quest!

It is impressive, but then my head starts to spin when I consider the times of these super-human upright cyclists....
http://ctt.org.uk/Competition/CompetitionRecords/Men/tabid/210/Default.aspx

The current British 10-mile TT record is an astonishing 17:58 by Bradley Wiggens, a pro Tour de France rider, then with the Confidis Team. I think it's safe to say that this is the fastest legitimate known upright 10mile TT mark out there. The clubs in Britain have a long history of running TTs. Prior to this, a 18:27 was done by Graeme Obree. This was a day before he set a British 50-mile TT record as well. Details are in his book Flying Scotsman. Irregardless, impressive performance Greg!



Being from Britain myself I would say that Greg would go even faster on one of the top UK courses. There are two narrow 90 degree turns and a very narrow 180 on Putah Creek that hurts average speeds a lot for a Velomobile.
One of the fastest courses in the UK (near Hull) has a long sweeping freeway overpass turn. That is where I did my personal best.
All that being said I agree with you 100% on those amazing DF performances.

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Speedbiker Posted - 10/18/2011 : 14:30:55
A few years ago I did the Troy Ohio Strawberry Festival 10 mile TT in the Coslinger streamliner. It was five out and back. I had two buddies waiting to lift me up, spin me around, and relaunch me. They were too busy flirting with a female paramedics to see me, and I fell. They got me going and despite keeping it between 40 and 55 all the way back, I only clicked a 19 something. Just to make everyone else mad, the organizes gave me top time of the day. They informed the other competitors that they, too, could have ridden a faster bike. Ha ha. I won a $100 gift certificate.
Upright Mike Posted - 10/18/2011 : 02:14:31
Incredible! 17:52 in a fully-faired carbon Quest!

It is impressive, but then my head starts to spin when I consider the times of these super-human upright cyclists....
http://ctt.org.uk/Competition/CompetitionRecords/Men/tabid/210/Default.aspx

The current British 10-mile TT record is an astonishing 17:58 by Bradley Wiggens, a pro Tour de France rider, then with the Confidis Team. I think it's safe to say that this is the fastest legitimate known upright 10mile TT mark out there. The clubs in Britain have a long history of running TTs. Prior to this, a 18:27 was done by Graeme Obree. This was a day before he set a British 50-mile TT record as well. Details are in his book Flying Scotsman. Irregardless, impressive performance Greg!
britCpower Posted - 10/17/2011 : 23:03:03
My jaw dropped when I saw that time. Fantastic performance Greg.

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tim_turner Posted - 10/17/2011 : 18:48:38
damn. if I could afford one, I'd own one. too cool.
holdin out for a production, faired, tilting trike, though ;)

T
Zyzio Posted - 10/17/2011 : 16:58:28
Greg went all out in the last TT of the season and smashed his previous course record of 19:01 to the tune of 17:52!! Average speed of 33.5 mph! Changes to the Quest were a carbon hood, closed foot holes, Duranos on the front, no mirror & 60 tooth chain ring. His maximum speed was 39.3...



PeterB
britCpower Posted - 07/20/2011 : 08:15:29
Looks like the TT is happening tonight after all

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britCpower Posted - 07/18/2011 : 12:54:05
I hear there are roadworks on Putah Creek road between Mile 2 and mile 3. Not sure if Wednesday's TT will be going ahead or not :(

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Upright Mike Posted - 07/14/2011 : 14:01:21
Wow, the results are cool!
They tell the bike, position, helmet, wheels etc that was used in the Time Trial. Guess they didn't know quite what to make of the "HPV"! And imagine, a "Non-Aero" helmet was used, and still got the fastest time. And they have a link to the Photo of each! Wow!

I wish all TT's had such information. Its also free advertising for potentially the fastest upright, wheels, helmet etc.
britCpower Posted - 07/14/2011 : 13:25:17
http://homepage.mac.com/daviswheelworks1/Sites/Time%20Trial/2011/davis_time_trial_07_06_2011_overall_results.pdf

Results posted

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Jeff Wills Posted - 07/09/2011 : 16:55:25
quote:
Originally posted by The-milkman

19:01....my oh my....if they're starting riders every 30 seconds he must have passed several riders like they were standing still....



It's kind of fun putting a streamliner in a open-to-all time trial. I recall starting 20 places ahead of Todd Marley at the local club time trial. I was on my Tour Easy, he was riding his streamliner, and we were starting at 30 second intervals. He passed me about 1/2 mile before we finished, stopping the clock at just over 17 minutes.

He's done the same at other time trials. This is second-hand, but I heard that one upright rider was boasting about beating up on everybody else at the Peoria (Oregon) TT. Then he was told that he had been beaten by Todd by 5 whole minutes... and his ego deflated like a burst balloon.

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raymondg Posted - 07/08/2011 : 13:21:42
Greg wouldn't need foot openings if he had a team to turn him around, which would further improve his speed.

Raymond
Zyzio Posted - 07/08/2011 : 10:22:28
Regarding the course records, I don't think they updated the women's results. Molly Van Houveling averaged 27.38 mph on 4/27/11.

Greg estimated his 180 degree turn took around 15 seconds. Another area he could improve on are the tires, he used fat, touring Schwalbes.

PeterB
raymondg Posted - 07/08/2011 : 10:02:05
To amplify Zyzio's sentiment, the Accelerator series were dedicated speedbikes, whereas the quest is a velomobile designed for day to day commuting. In addition, as I remarked, the Accelerator's did not self turn, but had a team to do so. So the small size of the gap between 19:01 and sub 18 (or 17 something, depending upon who's memory ;o) is even more impressive to me. Knowing how cross winds can wreak havoc on that course also makes it more impressive. Chapeau.

Maybe you guys can get a crew out there to help turn him around to see what that can do for his time.

-Raymond
britCpower Posted - 07/07/2011 : 23:53:07
I cant find the unnoficial recumbent time of the UC Davis team but the guy from wheelworks though it was 17m something. Souns like Greg certainly beat Paul Mach's record. Paul Mach was 3m06s slower than Dave Zabriskie in the US national 40K champs this year. Dave Zabriskie is one of the fastest time trialists in the world.

Course Record
Men's Record - 19:31 (30.74 mph) by Paul Mach - April 22, 2009
Women's Record - 22.41 (26.45 mph) by Molly Van Houweling - March 25, 2009
Team TT Record - 19:55 (30.13 mph) by Stephen Dey, Shawn Rosenthal, Tyler Dibble, Jim Wingert, Zack Kimsey - April 25, 2007



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JMvD Posted - 07/07/2011 : 23:26:47
quote:
Originally posted by DuncanWatson

We need to get Greg a nice race cap or one of the sinner race caps with side windows. link here - https://picasaweb.google.com/harrylieben/RacingHood Also fits the quest.



And don't forget the wheel fairings like they used at Cycle Vision.

http://www.recumbents.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3997

cheers,

Jan-Marcel
DuncanWatson Posted - 07/07/2011 : 16:51:26
We need to get Greg a nice race cap or one of the sinner race caps with side windows. link here - https://picasaweb.google.com/harrylieben/RacingHood Also fits the quest.
The-milkman Posted - 07/07/2011 : 14:32:59
19:01....my oh my....if they're starting riders every 30 seconds he must have passed several riders like they were standing still....
raymondg Posted - 07/07/2011 : 12:47:11
Pic here I think:
http://hcphoto.smugmug.com/DBC-and-NorCal/Davis-Wednesday-Night-TTs/PutahCreekTT-6July2011/17923834_D8nNqJ/1/1372470431_xBhPJWk/Medium

-Raymond
Zyzio Posted - 07/07/2011 : 11:05:24
Greg's time was 19:01. He did not have the head fairing and one of the large foot holes was open (for the three piont turn he needed to do at the 180. He also slowed down to 20 mph at the two 90 degree turns, because the front wheels on the Quest are only 24" apart and Greg did not want to take a chance of flipping it on his first attempt. He also mentioned that on the return leg he was spinning out at over 37 mph! This is with a horn, turn signals, headlight, stop light, battery and water on board. Oh, and it was 93 degrees and windy.
There may be some photos, but I'm not sure if the $$photographer$$ will post any freebies.

PeterB
raymondg Posted - 07/07/2011 : 10:18:58
IIRC, the UC Davis Accelerator (I, II, III, or something) did a sub 18 minute run in the mid 80's, it used to be on the results board at Wheelworks (which was right next to the university back then). The name of the rider I remember as Danny Manning, though I could be wrong. I believe they had a full team to pick the streamliner up and turn it around.

I enjoy hearing about the new exploits on the Putah Creek course, since they give me a chance for some nostalgia.

Are there any pix?

-Raymond

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